tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post111869871049813521..comments2023-09-07T02:32:16.470-07:00Comments on R/A - The Radical Agenda: A Heretical ConfessionJackAzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14067050980827976301noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1131258173440232862005-11-05T23:22:00.000-07:002005-11-05T23:22:00.000-07:00The idea isn't that he's resurrected now, it's tha...The idea isn't that he's resurrected now, it's that his body is the only thing to die, not his spirit. Resurrection pertains to the body, which is why it's essential--man is spirit and body, so the body will be restored and glorified. The resurrection completes the defeat of death, since it doesn't even reach to the body, eternally.<BR/><BR/>As a side note, I had a very good Catholic teacher who hinted that we exist in the mind of God after death and before the resurrection. I think he'd say it isn't categorically opposed to Purgatory. Of course, you two might disagree on a few particulars, like what it means to exist in the mind of God.<BR/><BR/>In any case, I don't see how this squares with Scripture. I was just reading the epistles today, and thought about this post quite often. The references to the spirit are blatant, and are definitely as distinct from the body.<BR/><BR/>As for the harrowing, that refers to the descent of Christ to those who had died before His coming, and the proclomation of the Gospel to those spirits. If Christ preached to the dead, did He preach to their dust? That's not the testament of the Bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1130983994303119272005-11-02T19:13:00.000-07:002005-11-02T19:13:00.000-07:00I see no conflict whatsoever.As for Paul's competi...I see no conflict whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>As for Paul's competing desires: <BR/><BR/>If, when we die we really cease to exist, then we will have no consciousness until we are resurrected. At the moment of resurrection, it will seem as if our death occurred but a moment ago, even if it was 10,000 years previously. I must ask, do you believe that Paul is currently resurrected? I don't think there are many who will claim that he is *now*, but he most certainly *will* be resurrected at the resurrection of the dead. It will seem to Paul, as it will to me, that he died just moments before, the he made just a small step between his life on the mortal side of death and life on the immortal side.<BR/><BR/>If man possesses a disembodied life after death, why is the resurrection of the dead so important to Paul? <BR/><BR/>As for the "harrowing of Hell": <BR/><BR/>I do not for moment deny the reality of the eternal judgment of the damned and the eternal blessing of the elect. What I deny is that the human creature exists outside of the body after death anywhere except in the mind of God. I recognize that such a position plays havoc with the doctine of Purgatory, but I have no problem with that.JackAzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067050980827976301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1130897758968357532005-11-01T19:15:00.000-07:002005-11-01T19:15:00.000-07:00So, how do you reconcile the harrowing of Hell and...So, how do you reconcile the harrowing of Hell and Paul's competing desires to serve God on earth and be with Him via death? (Not to mention some of the promises made and visions seen in Revelations.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1130779245176988322005-10-31T10:20:00.000-07:002005-10-31T10:20:00.000-07:00You sound like N. T. Wright!Love,A benign and bori...You sound like N. T. Wright!<BR/><BR/>Love,<BR/>A benign and boring Baptist<BR/><BR/>(Nice alliteration, by the way)Denny Burkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14037957191765812835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1127440298835539132005-09-22T18:51:00.000-07:002005-09-22T18:51:00.000-07:00I don't feel like burning you at the stake. ;)I t...I don't feel like burning you at the stake. ;)<BR/>I think that our spirit goes to God at death and we receive our glorified (perfect, new and improved body) at the resurrection.<BR/>Not to argue but just to express my opinion.Dreamspinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245570156730452458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1121444215935518572005-07-15T09:16:00.000-07:002005-07-15T09:16:00.000-07:00It's July 15. Time for your next post. :)It's July 15. Time for your next post. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3171663.post-1120723031376789022005-07-07T00:57:00.000-07:002005-07-07T00:57:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17785714556824749617noreply@blogger.com